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the door was your area of expertise.
dont suppose that little null on the network would be lying would it?
dont suppose that little null on the network would be lying would it?
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[Sorrow nods once as Nick steps back, continuing to eye him for some time afterward. There isn't much to say, though the air is thick with what's left unsaid. After a few tense moments, his gaze cuts back to the weapon on the floor, and he moves forward slowly to pick it up, crossing half the length of the room to do so.
It feels so light in his hands. Not quite weightless, but not as heavy as he would have thought. Sorrow turns the device over in his hands for a moment, studying it as one would study a bomb, before he finally looks back up toward Nick, as if remembering just then that he was there at all.]
Thank you.
[It's sincere. Sorrow isn't one for pleasantries, but he means this.]
It feels so light in his hands. Not quite weightless, but not as heavy as he would have thought. Sorrow turns the device over in his hands for a moment, studying it as one would study a bomb, before he finally looks back up toward Nick, as if remembering just then that he was there at all.]
Thank you.
[It's sincere. Sorrow isn't one for pleasantries, but he means this.]
Indeed. We had no choice, then.
[If there was great sadness there, he doesn't show it. Sorrow is nothing if not resolute, even when discussing the eradication of thousands- no, millions- of lives.]
The vast majority of my people did not know that something such as the Door existed, so they could not use it to save themselves. I only knew of it due to my interest in our species' history. When we were attacked, I instructed Fear on where to find it and how to use it.
[There's a slight pause, his gaze flickers to the floor, contemplative.]
I stayed to hold them off so that Fear could get Hope to the Door- to safety. After that, I don't know anything until I was revived by Hope himself.
[If there was great sadness there, he doesn't show it. Sorrow is nothing if not resolute, even when discussing the eradication of thousands- no, millions- of lives.]
The vast majority of my people did not know that something such as the Door existed, so they could not use it to save themselves. I only knew of it due to my interest in our species' history. When we were attacked, I instructed Fear on where to find it and how to use it.
[There's a slight pause, his gaze flickers to the floor, contemplative.]
I stayed to hold them off so that Fear could get Hope to the Door- to safety. After that, I don't know anything until I was revived by Hope himself.
He is.
[Sorrow agrees- and he does like Tranquility, even if sometimes he can be a little too amenable.]
But there should be little need for that. I don't mind you looking at my being. I trust that you're aware of our true composition- if nothing else, then from Love's presence in our city and their refusal to take a human form.
[Sorrow agrees- and he does like Tranquility, even if sometimes he can be a little too amenable.]
But there should be little need for that. I don't mind you looking at my being. I trust that you're aware of our true composition- if nothing else, then from Love's presence in our city and their refusal to take a human form.
was, is, whatever.
i think it's probably telling the truth and maybe you had a reason for withholding that information all this time.
do the other gods know?
i think it's probably telling the truth and maybe you had a reason for withholding that information all this time.
do the other gods know?
It was never relevant information. It doesn't change anything.
Fear suspected, I think. Regardless, they all know now.
Fear suspected, I think. Regardless, they all know now.
a lot of people would disagree, but that doesnt really bother me.
so they didnt know before. fear had to have an idea if he was the one to open the door in the first place - because if he hadnt then hope wouldnt have the energy to revive any of you, right?
so they didnt know before. fear had to have an idea if he was the one to open the door in the first place - because if he hadnt then hope wouldnt have the energy to revive any of you, right?
Yes. And Fear would have run out of energy while trying to ensure Hope's safety and the two of then would have died, ending our species.
The Door is far older than all of us, in a different form than any of us are familiar with. I wouldn't blame Fear for not being able to recognize it for what it is.
The Door is far older than all of us, in a different form than any of us are familiar with. I wouldn't blame Fear for not being able to recognize it for what it is.
well it would at least end the part of your species that arent being used as powerhouses for the null. not that thats any way to live either.
so then is the door really one of you - a god of something? is it sentient?
so then is the door really one of you - a god of something? is it sentient?
[OH BOY MORE GRIEF well all right. There's always a price to be paid for knowledge.]
I am. Which means I'm not even going to start with a customary physical exam, there's no need. At least I have two means of reconnaissance that don't require a thermometer and a stethoscope - I can Scan you, and see what it tells me, and haki, which I already use passively. Neither involves touch, it's quite unobtrusive.
I am. Which means I'm not even going to start with a customary physical exam, there's no need. At least I have two means of reconnaissance that don't require a thermometer and a stethoscope - I can Scan you, and see what it tells me, and haki, which I already use passively. Neither involves touch, it's quite unobtrusive.
Yes and no.
You've received our blessings, correct? You've gone on the little adventure to increase Hope's strength?
You've received our blessings, correct? You've gone on the little adventure to increase Hope's strength?
You know that we reproduce by partitioning off a piece of ourselves. You also know that, in the same vein, our blessings are a fragment of our bodies capable of being stored inside of objects and bestowing power.
What the Door is.... it's something in between.
What the Door is.... it's something in between.
so, what, is it like some sort of proto-god? a precursor?
If that's how you want to think about it.
To answer your earlier question- it's alive but it isn't exactly sentient. It can't communicate like you or I, it has a purpose and it executes that purpose when proper instruction is given.
You must understand also, that this creature is incredibly old. Thousands, tens of thousands or years have passed since its creation. We have evolved from the beings who created it.
That makes it incredibly dangerous. Our species has not always been.... palatable.
To answer your earlier question- it's alive but it isn't exactly sentient. It can't communicate like you or I, it has a purpose and it executes that purpose when proper instruction is given.
You must understand also, that this creature is incredibly old. Thousands, tens of thousands or years have passed since its creation. We have evolved from the beings who created it.
That makes it incredibly dangerous. Our species has not always been.... palatable.
i understand better than some are probably willing to.
with those fragments that null located assembled and in the hands of people here, how dangerous does that make the door then? people are obviously going to try and get their hands on it in hopes that they'll be able to control it, but i don't think it'll be that easy.
with those fragments that null located assembled and in the hands of people here, how dangerous does that make the door then? people are obviously going to try and get their hands on it in hopes that they'll be able to control it, but i don't think it'll be that easy.
If we're being honest, the fragments may prove very useful. By themselves, they aren't a danger to anyone, so if your people want to collect them then I have no objection.
Nevertheless, the Door was buried and hidden for a reason. It's dangerous for even us to interact with it for very long... this is an object that is so powerful, it transports living things from other worlds- and it is attracted to the chaos, to those of you who are in discord and strife. What does that tell you?
Nevertheless, the Door was buried and hidden for a reason. It's dangerous for even us to interact with it for very long... this is an object that is so powerful, it transports living things from other worlds- and it is attracted to the chaos, to those of you who are in discord and strife. What does that tell you?
thats good to know.
do you know in what way the fragments would help exactly?
it tells me that the door would probably be a great god of assholes if it was more like you.
but seriously, tho. it sounds like the way youre telling it, drilling a big hole in the middle of the colosseum would be a terrible idea.
bet people are going to try anyway, now that they know where it's located.
do you know in what way the fragments would help exactly?
it tells me that the door would probably be a great god of assholes if it was more like you.
but seriously, tho. it sounds like the way youre telling it, drilling a big hole in the middle of the colosseum would be a terrible idea.
bet people are going to try anyway, now that they know where it's located.
If my theories are correct, they will alter the functionality of the Door and allow us to use it for other purposes.
Yes, exactly. We can stop humans from transporting matter to the Door, but we can't stop you from physically going there... which would be inadvisable, as I believe that close proximity to it would be damaging enough to drive sentient creatures to madness.
Yes, exactly. We can stop humans from transporting matter to the Door, but we can't stop you from physically going there... which would be inadvisable, as I believe that close proximity to it would be damaging enough to drive sentient creatures to madness.
[That... sure as hell gets her attention faster than before.]
"other purposes?"
like what?
so its basically an elder god. great.
at least thatll keep it from coming into contact with those here who would abuse it and/or make things even worse for us here.
"other purposes?"
like what?
so its basically an elder god. great.
at least thatll keep it from coming into contact with those here who would abuse it and/or make things even worse for us here.
It could be possible to direct it... to make it open both ways. To choose the target destination or give it more detailed instructions. Right now it's operating on a very simple directive and fluctuating significantly enough that we run the risk of drawing the Null to us. I'd like to mitigate that risk.
One would hope. I will not tolerate insanity among you.
One would hope. I will not tolerate insanity among you.
now thats what i wanted to hear. if your theory is right then those are benefits that will work in both our favor.
hate to break it to you this but there's already enough insanity among us. tho less insanity would be nice.
but thanks for the info. think its helped me figure out where to go from here.
hate to break it to you this but there's already enough insanity among us. tho less insanity would be nice.
but thanks for the info. think its helped me figure out where to go from here.
( That's okay, Sorrow. Serah will feel your emotion enough for both of you, her gaze following his to the floor. One little artefact making a whole world of difference, she knows about that. But for her, that one historical thing - the very thing that sparked her interest in history as a child - was the cause of the loss of too many lives.
Not thousands or millions, but too many all the same. An entire village, every visiting tourist, all rounded up because of her one mistake.
And then, Serah herself--
She doesn't manage to suppress the shiver that comes with the way her thoughts meander to being encased in crystal, to being alone with nothing but a handful of dreams - good dreams, but ones which were a constant reminder of how alone she was, unable to move, to speak, even to breathe. )
It must have been pretty lonely. ( Turning to crystal was. It was terrifying, and she was lucky enough to be with Lighting, with Snow, even Vanille. Surrounded by Sazh and Hope, people she didn't know then. Holding off an invading force to let those closest to you survive -
She has no idea what that could be like. She's not even sure if Lightning could tell her.
The silence lingers, thick and filled with a million things that float around Serah's head, too many of them bringing forth the aching emotion which Sorrow needs. )
You know, that's why I became a teacher. ( She could keep asking things, but such things are difficult to talk about, and she doesn't want to burden him any further. Instead, Serah offers a smile. ) Because I wanted the children in my world to know about the things that happened to us, to the people who came before us, what they sacrificed so that we could have a chance at something better.
Not thousands or millions, but too many all the same. An entire village, every visiting tourist, all rounded up because of her one mistake.
And then, Serah herself--
She doesn't manage to suppress the shiver that comes with the way her thoughts meander to being encased in crystal, to being alone with nothing but a handful of dreams - good dreams, but ones which were a constant reminder of how alone she was, unable to move, to speak, even to breathe. )
It must have been pretty lonely. ( Turning to crystal was. It was terrifying, and she was lucky enough to be with Lighting, with Snow, even Vanille. Surrounded by Sazh and Hope, people she didn't know then. Holding off an invading force to let those closest to you survive -
She has no idea what that could be like. She's not even sure if Lightning could tell her.
The silence lingers, thick and filled with a million things that float around Serah's head, too many of them bringing forth the aching emotion which Sorrow needs. )
You know, that's why I became a teacher. ( She could keep asking things, but such things are difficult to talk about, and she doesn't want to burden him any further. Instead, Serah offers a smile. ) Because I wanted the children in my world to know about the things that happened to us, to the people who came before us, what they sacrificed so that we could have a chance at something better.
I see.
[He considers for a moment- but it doesn't sound like anything he can't stop if need be.]
Very well.
[He considers for a moment- but it doesn't sound like anything he can't stop if need be.]
Very well.
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